New ask Hacker News story: I want a decentralized messenger which can delete msgs and sync between devices
I want a decentralized messenger which can delete msgs and sync between devices
4 by asakura42 | 0 comments on Hacker News.
Moreover, delete both for me and for my contact. Is that too much to ask? I wonder why XMPP hasn't released a similar XEP yet. But frankly speaking, XMPP is not the best choice when it comes to decentralization. For me, Tox has always been an example of a good idea. But it still don't know even how to send offline messages. Bitmessage is very cool, but also very inconvenient and the network itself is slow. So, yes, you can write anything in Bitmessage and it will be completely anonymous, but get ready to wait several minutes to send one message. I have tried Retroshare. I've tried Session. Tox. Signal. But every one of them was bad in some way. Either they didn't contain what messenger needs, or they were overloaded with unnecessary features, or were frankly inconvenient. I'm not a programmer, but in general I have an idea of how a normal messenger should work. Even if it's visually awful or only works on the command line. 1. It should be p2p. This means that there should be no servers in the middle, except perhaps relays. 2. ALL messages should be e2e encrypted. 3. It must support offline messages. It doesn't matter how it is implemented. The main thing is that messages should not remain on the relays even in encrypted form after delivery. 4. You don't need ANYTHING but your own desire to register. No phones, no email, no confirmation codes. 5. It must be instantaneous. Frankly speaking, I don't want to wait 10 minutes for message delivery like in Bitmessage. 6. In it you can delete messages. And both your own and your contact's messages. On all devices simultaneously. 7. It must be able to synchronize between devices. It sounds simple. Moreover, it sounds logical! I reread my post and think: yes, this is how communication should be. But for some reason I do not know any messenger that implements these simple seven points. Maybe someone knows one? It would even be great if it is unpopular and this post will help it to get promoted.
4 by asakura42 | 0 comments on Hacker News.
Moreover, delete both for me and for my contact. Is that too much to ask? I wonder why XMPP hasn't released a similar XEP yet. But frankly speaking, XMPP is not the best choice when it comes to decentralization. For me, Tox has always been an example of a good idea. But it still don't know even how to send offline messages. Bitmessage is very cool, but also very inconvenient and the network itself is slow. So, yes, you can write anything in Bitmessage and it will be completely anonymous, but get ready to wait several minutes to send one message. I have tried Retroshare. I've tried Session. Tox. Signal. But every one of them was bad in some way. Either they didn't contain what messenger needs, or they were overloaded with unnecessary features, or were frankly inconvenient. I'm not a programmer, but in general I have an idea of how a normal messenger should work. Even if it's visually awful or only works on the command line. 1. It should be p2p. This means that there should be no servers in the middle, except perhaps relays. 2. ALL messages should be e2e encrypted. 3. It must support offline messages. It doesn't matter how it is implemented. The main thing is that messages should not remain on the relays even in encrypted form after delivery. 4. You don't need ANYTHING but your own desire to register. No phones, no email, no confirmation codes. 5. It must be instantaneous. Frankly speaking, I don't want to wait 10 minutes for message delivery like in Bitmessage. 6. In it you can delete messages. And both your own and your contact's messages. On all devices simultaneously. 7. It must be able to synchronize between devices. It sounds simple. Moreover, it sounds logical! I reread my post and think: yes, this is how communication should be. But for some reason I do not know any messenger that implements these simple seven points. Maybe someone knows one? It would even be great if it is unpopular and this post will help it to get promoted.
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